Watch out, because [tech companies and the Pentagon] don't have your interests or mine at heart. It's an unholy fusion of people who basically want to control us just for the sake of making even more money for themselves. It's a very dangerous development and we should really be on the alert because if we're not in hell already, we are heading there.

Harper's Andrew Cockburn returns to This Is Hell! to talk about his March cover story, "The Pentagon’s Silicon Valley Problem: How Big Tech is losing the wars of the future." "The Moment of Truth" with Jeff Dorchen follows the interview.

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