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Secret Forever Wars and the Obscure Laws That Allow Them / Katherine Yon Ebright

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If there's no public disclosure, if there's no public accountability, there's no debate. You need the lawmakers first and foremost to know. But it's also so helpful for the public to know so that you can call your congressmen and say, “I don't think that we should be doing killer capture missions against the Islamic State and the greater Sahara in Niger.” But until we have more information from the Pentagon, from the White House about when, where, and against whom we're using force, you can't even place that call to your congressman and maybe your congressman doesn't even know.

Katherine Yon Ebright joins Chuck to discuss her report, "Secret War: How the U.S. Uses Partnerships and Proxy Forces Wage War Under the Radar." She explains how security cooperation programs have led U.S. forces into unauthorized hostilities alongside foreign partners. Ebright serves as counsel with the Brennan Center's Liberty and National Security Program.

You can read Katherine Ebright's report, "Secret War: How the U.S. Uses Partnerships and Proxy Forces Wage War Under the Radar," here:…rts/secret-war


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Katherine Ebright

Katherine Yon Ebright serves as counsel with the Brennan Center’s Liberty & National Security Program, where she focuses on war powers and the constitutional separation of powers.

Katherine previously served as a fellow at the Public International Law & Policy Group.  She then served as a law clerk to the Hon. John M. Walker, Jr., of the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit and to the Hon. J. Paul Oetken of the District Court for the Southern District of New York.  She received an AB in social studies from Harvard College and a JD from Columbia Law School.

Katherine Yon Ebright at the Brennan Center for Justice


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