At the beginning, we were talking about the tension between the overt ideology of the country is “all men are created equal,” and then there’s this transgressive counter-tradition arguing against that. Today…increasingly there is this current that openly rejects these ideas and says, “well maybe monarchy would be better,” “you should govern the country the way you govern a corporation,” and that means venerating the founder and giving the founder the control to make the decisions that are really in everyone’s best interests.