Chuck interviews Truthout's Kelly Hayes on the article she co-wrote the Boston Review essay with past guest Mariame Kaba, “How Much Discomfort Is the Whole World Worth?: Movement building requires a culture of listening—not mastery of the right language.”
Kelly Hayes is a Menominee organizer and writer. She is coauthor, with Mariame Kaba, of Let This Radicalize You: Organizing and the Revolution of Reciprocal Care. Hayes is also the host of Truthout’s podcast “Movement Memos” and a contributing writer at Truthout.